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    "content": "I saw one Cabinet Secretary (CS) - I do not want to discuss him - raising a lot of issues about some rhinos. I think the eleventh one died yesterday; may its soul rest in peace. They were the pride of this Country. The Select Committee shall sit within ten days and I hope that the Cabinet Secretaries will not tell us to go to hell. This is in compliance with Chapter Six of the Constitution on Leadership and Integrity. If the allegations are unsubstantiated, no further proceedings shall go on. If the resolution requiring the Cabinet Secretary to be dismissed is supported by the majority by acclamation, the President has an obligation to dismiss that Cabinet Secretary. I urge Senators and the Members of the National Assembly to support this Bill. If they do so, many CSs will be on the chopping board, so that we can safeguard the integrity of this country. I am not casting aspersions on a court of law, but given the way Chapter Six of the Constitution is being violated, if this Bill is passed, we will correct many wrongs that have been committed. The Bill has a provision that will ensure we are not unfair to the CSs. They will have the right to be heard. They will appear before the select committee during its investigations. That is why we have principles of natural justice; the right to be heard and to a fair and just process. Part IV of the Bill, on the procedure for removal from office, by Impeachment, of a governor and a deputy governor is of interest to many Kenyans. I hope there are no Senators who intend to sponsor such Motions at the lowest level. A member of a county assembly who intends to move such a Motion shall submit to the Speaker of the county assembly the Motion together with a list of the members of the county assembly who support the Motion, in the form prescribed in the Schedule. So, there will be a system with no challenges. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, you are the Senator for the great people of Samburu and know that capacity sometimes is an issue. I am not saying that we have illiterate Members of County Assemblies (MCAs) who have not gone to school, but capacity is still a challenge. Therefore, we have provided for a prescribed form that an MCA can fill if the governor violates Article 181 of the Constitution. The speakers of the county assemblies have been put on a high pedestal. Even though there are many complexities that come with Motions to impeach Governors, it will depend on the 47 county speakers - if they are men and women of integrity - to decline or approve such Motions. If the speaker of, for example, the county assemblies of Nandi, Makueni or Mombasa will look at the Motion and decline to approve it, they must give reasons for refusal. This is to avoid scenarios where a speaker with vested interests declines to approve the Motion. We are putting them to task to give their reasons. That is what is important. If the speaker fails to respond within seven days of receiving the Motion, the Motion shall be deemed to have been approved. So, we have ensured that the process of impeachment is tight. In Kenya we have a challenge with the deputy speakers in the county assemblies. This is something we have discussed in my Committee. The speaker can be ‘technically’ absent, go on paternity leave or become ‘technically’ sick and an impeachment Motion is The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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