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    "content": "This law is trying to bring order. When you study the social foundations of law which I was taught by Prof. Tom Ojienda and Prof. Mutakha Kangu, I learned that according to Thomas Hobbes, Jeremy Bentham and Kantian Theory in, FLB 101, Social Foundations of Law, the reason all of us surrender our institution called governance is not governance to create anarchy, but to create law and order. I am just paraphrasing; that is Thomas Hobbes and also Jeremy Bentham says: “Life at that time was short, nasty and brutish.”I want to tell the governors, let us not be worried about this law. Mr. Temporary Speaker, I do not know whether the charges against violation of Mau issues can be used to impeach a governor. Maybe, when Sen. Olekina will be contributing on this, he will tell us if that is a violation of the law. On the issue of removal of a County Executive Committee Member, it is almost the same process. I think we have created all the prescribed forms. This can be achieved by a Member of the County Assembly submitting to the Speaker of the respective county assembly a Motion in a prescribed form by at least one-third. We have tried to ensure that we create a standard procedure, so that the Speaker does not have a reason. If we had given them room without a prescribed form in the impeachment of a CEC, maybe an MCA can decide to engage an advocate or decide to represent himself. So, the Speaker should not have an excuse because it is a prescribed form where you do a checklist. We have assisted the Clerk to do a checklist. By the time he is approving, it becomes easy for him. If one-third of the MCAs agree, then the process of removing a CEC Member can commence. In Vihiga County, for example, they removed two CECs by at least one-third. The process is almost similar with the requirements. The MCA intending to move the Motion notifies the Speaker within two days. If the Speaker declines to approve it, he shall inform the Member within two days. We have reduced for the governor to be four days and for the CEC to be two days. The reasons must be given. The reason we are doing so, it is not a tradition that we want to perpetuate, but we are trying to ensure that we focus on ensuring the process is perfect. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the Member is required to move the Motion and be supported by at least one-third. The county assembly shall appoint a select committee to investigate within 14 days. The MCA has a right to appear and be represented before the select committee during investigation. On the same process of natural principles, we have also ensured that an MCA and governors should come, kneeling down and thanking us and saying: “Long live the Senate! Hail the Senate!”. This is because in the past they could not fire a CEC. In Bomet County, for example, there was a CEC who was fired by Governor Isaac Rutto, but he could not go home because there was no law in place. The governors should look at the Senate as a partner, not in crime, graft, corruption and lethargy in counties, but as a partner of changing the lives of the people at the lowest level, even along the cutline in Mau. I know the sugar levels of my good friend Sen. Olekina---"
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