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    "content": "I hope that Sen. M. Kajwang' will stop distracting the Chairperson of this Committee because this is a very serious matter. I want to urge Sen. (Prof.) Kamar to summon the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission (EACC) even before the ad hoc Committee is given 60 days to investigate. How is Kenya operating? I do not understand why an investigative authority tells a Government agency not to take any risk of paying anybody yet there are poor farmers waiting to be paid. Can they give an assurance to those farmers that their money which is being held by NCPB will continue accruing interest every day until they are paid? If that will not be guaranteed, they will suffer because investigation might take two or three years before it is concluded. I know how EACC works. They have investigations pending before them for the last six or seven years. Do they want to deny people legitimate payment of what they have earned? I know of people in this country who have supplied Government agencies goods worth millions of shillings, but they have never been paid in the name of those agencies being investigated. I saw a particular supplier crying on television. Suppliers of goods worth Kshs100,000, 300,000, 500,000, respectively, who were, probably, going to make a profit of Kshs10,000, 20,000 or 50,000, but they have not been paid. This is because an investigation agency put an injunction to any payment that would have been done to public agencies to people who genuinely supplied goods and services. Some of these people had taken loans to supply those goods and services. This House must come up with a lasting solution. Even if that solution means amending the law, so be it. We must make it abundantly clear that for the entire period that persons are not paid by Government agencies for supplying goods and services, their The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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