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    "id": 827047,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Farhiya",
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        "legal_name": "Farhiya Ali Haji",
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    "content": "know that killing is not right in any culture or religion and I condemn the person who killed those people. It is good that this matter came to this House because what we heard from the media was a story from the side of the farmers. We do not know whether there was a contractual agreement or not. Sometimes it might not be in writing but even a verbal agreement is still an agreement. They might have paid for those farms with certain considerations. It is good that this Senate investigates. If there is anybody who sold land or leased for consideration, they should also be brought into the picture so that the ranchers also know where the buck should stop. The other issue we need to understand is that in Kenya, everybody has a right to live anywhere in this country. I do not mean that they should encroach on other people‟s space. If there was an agreement for them to graze on that land, it shows that they were allowed by the owners and that should also come out. The other sad thing is that animals were put in a concentration camp by the county government. I saw it in one of the clips that was shared by Sen. Mwaruma. The camels did not get themselves there because there are people who took them there. There is no point of punishing the camels that did not have any consent to go there in the first place. As a person from the pastoralist community, I find that strange in terms of what was done to the camels. I am not saying that what the herders did was right. If they are the ones who killed, they should know that it is wrong to kill people and whether they killed or not, the camels were taken there without their consent. So, there was no need to punish them by putting them in a concentration camp because that is against the rights of animals. The Senate should also hear from the other side. There is also need for communities to co-exist. I also agree that families of the people who were killed should be compensated by the Government. The other thing is that there is Taita Taveta County Government. Instead of punishing one side, they should have brought both parties together and hear from both sides. In my community, we say that if you see a bleeding head, you should check around because the stomach could be on the floor. We do not know what happened. People fight a lot where I come from. Somebody could have removed somebody‟s stomach which could be lying on the floor but we do not know that. So, it is always good to see the other side of the coin. As a House of wisdom, because that is what I refer to this House, I am sure the investigations will be done in a manner that will not only be good for the farmers but also consider the interests of the other side. I am sad that the county security organs did not deal with murder because it is a capital crime in this country. That should have been investigated. Maybe it is the herders who killed or somebody did it in the name of shifting blame to the herders."
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