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    "id": 828669,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Endebess, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr.) Robert Pukose",
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    "content": " Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, I support the Committee in its proposal to remove “invasive” and leave “procedures”. When we talk of invasive procedures, it means you are opening up somebody and doing some operations. When we say “procedure”, we give them a leeway. For example, there are clinical officers who have done cataract surgery and they are able to do whatever is outside the eye but they cannot go inside. If they go inside the eye, it becomes invasive. That is an ophthalmologist speciality. I do not want people to get this wrongly. For you to be a medical doctor, you have to do anatomy. You have to dissect a dead body. A clinical officer does not dissect a dead body. We do not want to expose Kenyans to health risks. When we say you are a surgeon, it means you have done anatomy. Basically, you have dissected the human body during your studies for a basic degree. When you do your masters, you must again do anatomy in order to become good. You may then be allowed to operate on a human being. When we say we want to allow them to do procedures… Even if a clinical officer trains to do obstetrics or gynaecology, he or she can only assist in evacuation, say, when a mother with a retained placenta or incomplete abortion comes to hospital. A clinical officer cannot do caesarean section. It is not possible. We should not expose Kenyans to health risks. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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