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    "id": 839171,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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        "legal_name": "Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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    "content": "Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It was a bitter-sweet experience. I rise to support the Impeachment Procedure Bill, 2018. During public hearings, there are those who thought and said that there is no reason to have a procedure in a separate Act to impeach the President and the Deputy President. This is because Articles 144, 145 and 150, in their own view, appear to be absolutely foolproof. Therefore, they were of the view that it is possible that this Bill might derogate from the principles in the Constitution. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, that decision will be left to the Senate to decide. However, we still think that the framework of impeachment of the President, Deputy President, Governor, County Executive Committee Member and Cabinet Secretary ought to be in one law like this, for whatever reason. You are a teacher of Law and there is repetition. This is the sort of repetition that is not tautologous ; that is the word. If I was a student I would get good marks. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, you and I were here in the last Parliament and we ran into headwinds in the impeachment of governors. In fact, in the impeachment of Deputy Governor Kiala an issue arose; whether we can actually impeach a deputy governor, because it is not provided for in the Constitution. We had to make a law, through Mr. Kiala’s impeachment, that the impeachment of a deputy governor, applies mutatismutandis with the impeachment of a governor. We have removed those ambiguities by providing for the impeachment of a governor. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, your friend, Judge Mabea, ruled that you cannot impeach a county executive, and he gave reasons for that. We have in this Bill, through the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights, provided a method for the impeachment of a county executive. This is because the county executive, just like anybody else, is answerable to the governor and ultimately to the people who have put the governor in office. That is why the procedure is elaborate. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes"
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