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    "content": "Senate by, once again, two-thirds of the Members sitting. Therefore, the requirement of the two-thirds shows the seriousness of this matter. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we have also made it clear in this Bill that although it is our mandate to be carrying out this function, we would like the public to also, in a sense, see what we are doing. In other words, we want the public to see that we are doing it in a very transparent and open manner. That is why Clause 32(2) states that:- “All proceedings under this Act shall be open to the public unless in exceptional circumstances where the person presiding over the proceedings has determined that there are justifiable reasons for the exclusion of the public.” Normally, those justifiable reasons in law are reasons which touch on the security of the country. Therefore, that very serious impending danger is where the security of the country may be disclosed, and which could endanger the very existence of the Republic. In that instance, that aspect of the evidence then goes in camera . Otherwise, for everything else, the public will be entitled to witness and say: “Yes, we voted for the President or the Governor. However, we have now seen, in a very open and transparent manner, that he is guilty of gross misconduct and gross violation of human rights and, therefore, he should be removed.” We are saying this because during the public hearings, there were suggestions that we should not have those powers to remove somebody that has been elected by the people. They proposed that the matter should be referred to the people through a referendum so that they can vote on the issue. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, you know what happens during the referendum – there can be injustice, people may not necessarily decide on the merit of the matter but may decide on the politics of the matter. Therefore, it becomes necessary that since it is a judicial matter, it be determined in accordance with the procedure that we have outlined under this particular Bill. With those few remarks, I support."
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