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    "id": 840345,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Sakaja",
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        "legal_name": "Johnson Arthur Sakaja",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I beg that you consider the views of the Chairperson of the Committee on Labour and Social Welfare as you make your determination. What Sen. Wako has said is indeed true. There are certain elements that touch on different committees but that is also true for everything that comes before this House. There is no one matter that you will deal with that is squarely within the purview of one committee. There is always a legal aspect or a matter touching on a different Committee. When I heard this Petition, issues of how workers are treated, labour laws, protective gear, the working environment and an issue that I am dealing with on the matter on SGR came to my attention. Many times we look at investors with rose-coloured glasses at the expense of Kenyans and a first class country can never have a second class citizen. That is something that we are dealing with. However, as the Chairperson of the Committee on Labour and Social Welfare, I am extremely hesitant to deal with a Petition through a joint Committee. The logistics of getting quorum of two committees, the scheduling and the other matters before the Committees never allows us to fully pursue a matter. I have been in many joint committees. If we feel that the bulk of this matter is environmental, I would like to sit on the Committee on Lands, Environment and Natural Resources to deal with it. We can come in and assist on aspects that touch on labour. If it is mainly labour, let my Committee deal with it then the other Committee can come in, but the logistics of joint committees are very inconveniencing to us, as Chairpersons, and to the Members of these Committees."
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