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    "id": 848735,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir that is why I am saying that we never requested for a statement from any of the witnesses. We do not know who the witnesses are. We never requested for evidence from any person. When Mr. Perry Mansukh sat here, he never bothered to give us any statement of any witness to state that the mandate we were given from (a) to (d) and the letters we gave him were sub judice . Lastly, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, what Sen. Moi does not know is that the principle of sub judice vis a vis parliamentary proceedings is weighed against public interest. Do we have public interest in the Solai Dam tragedy vis a vis the rights of one or two people? On the matter of public interest, I beg that you rule that notwithstanding the fact that Sen. Gideon Moi has not produced any evidence before you that complies with the Standing Orders; first, that you do not need direction to dismiss the sub judice argument. This should be very easy for you, being a lecturer of law. However, even worse, the matter of public interest in the Solai Dam tragedy is being investigated by both Houses. It is, therefore, in the interest of the Senate to get to the bottom of this matter as The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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