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    "id": 849604,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Eng.) Hargura",
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        "legal_name": "Godana Hargura",
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    "content": "Madam Temporary Speaker, thank you for giving me this opportunity to contribute to this important Motion. I would like to thank Sen. Mwaruma for coming up with this Motion. We sit in the Committee on Lands, Environment and Natural Resources and these are issues we discuss. We interacted with the Cabinet Secretary on this. When we talk of community wildlife conflict, most of the conflicts do not take place in the national parks. Actually they take place within the habitats of citizens of this country and not in the preserved areas. In this case, it is human beings being aggrieved because the animals are not within the areas which have been set aside for protection of wildlife. I represent Marsabit County which is the largest county in this country. We have Marsabit National Park and Sibiloi National Park on the northeastern shore of Lake Turkana. The rest is community land for the pastoralists and that is where wildlife is found. In Marsabit, we have animals like elephants. We had an elephant called “Ahmed” with the biggest tusk which is now at the museum here. It used to be in that park and we still protect that park. If you go there, you will find the forest is still intact as it was. We still co-exist with the animals. We also have conservancies and pastoralists live near animals. We have Melako Conservancy in Laisamis and we co-exist with the animals and we have no problem with that. However, the problem is compensation because when you co-exist with wildlife, at times, there are human deaths, injury and even loss of livestock for the pastoralists and farmers around the mountain and I think the Government is sensitive to that. That is why we have laws like the Wildlife Conservation and Management Act which is supposed to set out how human beings should be compensated in the event of being affected by wildlife. I think we do not have shortage of laws. If you look at that Act, it is very clear. The only problem with the Act is that it does not state the timeframe within which one should be compensated. If I got terms of the Motion well, it provides for adequate and timely compensation and benefits by communities from the resources which accrue from the wildlife. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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