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    "id": 851335,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/851335/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Molo, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Kuria Kimani",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 13435,
        "legal_name": "Francis Kuria Kimani",
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    "content": "On the issue of betting, I hold a contrary view to what most of the Hon. Members have said. On this matter of betting, we have to agree that betting in this country is here to stay, whether it is in Kenya or any other part of the world. Are we taxing it to prevent it or raise revenue for this country? We must also remember that if we are only taxing it to punish betting companies and not abolish it all together, betting can be done online. This, therefore, means that for me to place a bet, I do not have to bet in a Kenyan company. Once we punish Sportpesa, Gaming Kenya and Betting Kenya and all the other companies, all they need to do is to incorporate these companies in Uganda or Tanzania and they will be paying their company taxes there and then the youths in this country will still bet in those companies. The vice that we will be trying to end will not necessarily end. In as much as we debate the issue about gaming, we should do this with sobriety and look at the options available. I repeat that even if we taxed them whatever amounts of money here, they would still incorporate in our neighbouring countries and our young men and women will continue to bet. On the amendment to the SACCOs Act, there is a lot of conversation on the investment committee. SACCOs in the country have been a pillar of the economy. Our grandparents who The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
}