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    "id": 852970,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Garissa Township, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Aden Duale",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Aden Bare Duale",
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    "content": " Hon. Deputy Speaker, number one, this is a Private Member’s Bill. Number two, this Bill was processed by the HBC last night for it to appear on the Order Paper and my good friend, the Leader of the Minority Party, was in that meeting last night that endorsed this Bill to be on the Order Paper. There are a number of reasons why this Bill must be here based on the discussion that took place in the HBC. First, we as the HBC have no powers to kill any Private Member’s Bill. That debate was asked that if it is not unconstitutional…When we looked at the Order Paper, the only Bill which was before the House by a Private Member was the one by Hon. Njagagua. Secondly, the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning – and the Chair is sitting here – tabled a Report on this Bill which every Member can access. In that Report, the Committee – and the Chair can confirm it – has stated it very clear that when we come to the Committee of the whole House on this Bill, the Committee will only deal with the items with have been left out by the previous Bill. Thirdly, we have passed many election laws. If there is a Bill on election laws, that does not stop another Member from bringing another Bill on election laws. The Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning has tabled a Report and in their Report, they had the right to say: “Because we have had another Bill, we reject this Bill” and advise the Member and the House.” However, they have tabled a Report here which copies are available. In the Report, they are saying that on the issues that have not been captured, we will deal with this Bill at the Committee of the whole House. We do not need to kill the Bill of a Private Member. When we go to the Committee of the whole House, the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning will guide us and they will not deal with issues which have already been dealt with by the County Government Retirement Scheme Bill, which we have sent to the Senate and which we do not know the outcome. Lastly, let me make it very clear - and it is also in the public domain - that the Council of Governors, during their summit meeting, had issues with the County Government (Amendment) Bill. They minuted it and wrote to Parliament saying that the Bill that we passed did not deal with issues affecting staff in the counties. I agree with Hon. Mbadi that when we dealt with that Bill, we provided transitional clauses on how to manage both funds. Hon. Deputy Speaker, the most important document that you will use to give direction is the Report of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning. The Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning should have said that they had issues with this Bill or that the issues had been dealt with in the other Bill so they did not see the need for it. The Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning tabled a Report without giving a prejudicial way forward. We will deal with this Bill during the Committee of the whole House and agree on areas left out by the previous Bill. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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