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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mbeere North, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Charles Njagagua",
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        "legal_name": "Charles Muriuki Njagagua",
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    "content": "At the outset, I wish to state that from where I stand these Bills are not similar. One pursues the issues of pension from the point of view of the governors. The one that was passed is the one for the county governments. Like the previous speakers have said, this matter came squarely before the HBC yesterday in the evening. It was allotted time. The Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning which went through the public participation phases gave a Report that this Private Member’s Bill must and should be debated in the House. If at the debating level the House feels that it should not proceed, then the House will pronounce itself on my Bill. At this point in time when a Member who sat in the HBC and gave it time to be debated comes and says that it should be killed, I do not think that is the right thing. When he says that it is untidy to pass this Bill, that is unparliamentary. He is saying that the HBC gave time and slotted a Bill to be debated which was untidy. I urge that you allow this Bill to proceed for debate."
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