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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I support that. That is why we have asked the Commission for Revenue Allocation (CRA) to come up with a policy. I picked the example of Bungoma County when we were debating the amendment to the County Allocation of Revenue Act (CARA). Bungoma County has been given Kshs80 million for the water towers. However, they have no idea where that money is coming from, what it is for, who is going to oversight it and what it is going to do. The framework of how these approvals are done, whether it is a conditional grant, a PPP or borrowing by counties, we must have a system through particularly the Controller of Budget, who controls the release of funds and checks whether they have complied. It can even involve the national Treasury because regulations will come to us. What Sen. Sakaja is proposing can be put in the regulations, to ensure that there is an approval mechanism, where the information is coming to us for whatever reason, so that we can have it here. This would stop counties from engaging in what would be futile exercises, like the one Isiolo is attempting to do. Sen. Murkomen had made a comment that the Committee on Finance and Budget must ensure that in the Committee that will approve this, either at national or county level, there must be the involvement of the county governments. The Report that we have tabled under a new Sub-clause 4(a) includes the three persons nominated by the Council of Governors (CoG). We want to see the CoG and governors participating in the management of PPP."
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