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    "content": "(Sen. (Prof) Kindiki): Order, Senators. I am afraid that I have to cut short the interventions because of time, we have to balance the interests of so many competing items in the Order Paper every day, and it is not an easy job. I seek your indulgence for those who have not been able to contribute. I want to take this opportunity to equally thank the Senate Majority Leader and all the Senators for availing yourselves to the interactive meeting with the Cabinet Secretary. The Statement that gave rise to this activity was under Standing Order No.48(1). If you look at Standing Order No.48(1), (2) and (3) (a) and (b), the Speaker has the discretion of referring the Statement to a Committee, which I did, even in an amplified way. The other discretion is of the Committee. Once the Committee has interacted with the relevant Senators, including the Senator who asked the question, the Cabinet Secretary or any other person, it is must not table a report; it is discretionary. I have listened to the very persuasive arguments that have been made about the enormity of this matter, and more so, because it involves the application and use of public funds across the country. Again, it involves devolution, which we all accept, as a House, and individual leaders, is at the cornerstone of the survival of our country going forward, in terms of checking excesses of decentralization, et cetera . So, any resources that are being clawed back from counties must provide value for money because the people at the grassroots require these amounts of money to the last shilling. Having said that, I have noted the request by the Senate Majority Leader about timelines, and the House is in session next week until Thursday, as per our Calendar. If there are other activities of social or other nature, you, your Whip and your counterparts on the other side of the House, must work out a way of making sure that the business of the House is transacted and is not distracted by other activities. They could be important but, of course, the proceedings of the House take precedence over any other activity that we do here. I am almost persuaded by the remarks of the Senate Minority Leader and Sen. Wetangula on the need for more time, but I am afraid that we are working within the Standing Orders. More so, we are working within the need for interim or short-term and long-term solutions to the people of Kenya. As has been humbly argued, we may not have enough time to exhaustively deal with the myriad issues that have arisen from this meeting. It may also be recalled that I did say, during my remarks in my ruling last week, that once the Senate interacts with the Cabinet Secretary, I will require the Report that The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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