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"speaker_name": "Sen. Murkomen",
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"content": "the policy is still done by the national Government and the implementation is done by counties. So, in this provision, a thought should be put on the Ministry of Labour and Social Protection. Thirdly, Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, is a representative of the Council of Governors (CoG). I would rather this is re-worded to say, a representative of counties as nominated or appointed by the CoG, so that CoG do not just sit there to get their own representatives. It is basically to emphasize the fact that when the person is sitting there; it is not to the Council or the people, who are sitting in the Council all the time, he or she has the responsibility to represent county executives. That point is to say, the county executive as appointed by governors. Again, the question of whether one or two are enough is necessary, and, it must be sorted out by the Committee. Fourth, Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir is a representative of the county public service boards across the country. When you look at the appointment of the representative of the county public service boards, it says that the COG shall convene a meeting of the respective nominated bodies for the purpose of nominating the representative. County public service boards are supposed to be independent across the country. We are even thinking about independent and not so independent but at least exercised at the level of independence from the county executive. Perhaps, we should allow the chairs of the county public service boards to come together, nominate one person and vote in a process that involves them, unlike a situation where CoG will convene. However, I have no hard position on this. If the wisdom is to have that alternative, then let it be. Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, we also have three representatives of the County Assembly Service Boards (CASBs). This is where there is an anomaly. We all support county assemblies but there are few staff and you give them three nominees; then you get the county public service board which has five times the number of staff while in the counties you get one person. Again, that should be corrected so that at the Committee stage, we can have equality of representation, so that if you will have to distribute two in each body, it remains to be so in all the bodies and then there is a representative of a trade union and so forth. Generally, the administrative structure that is provided here is just the normal one for all boards across the country. I do not want to overemphasize how the board will manage its meetings and so forth. Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir, I want to persuade the Chairperson, that Clause 18 cannot go as it is in terms of the chief executive officer of the scheme. It has very good provisions about qualifications and so forth, but there is one provision that must be inserted here. It must provide for provisions on the term of the chief executive officer. In other words, he or she will serve for a term of how many years and how many times, so that we do not have people perpetuating themselves in management forever. You have someone entrenching themselves to manage the entity forever. If it is a five year term, we say five year term eligible for one more appointment. If it is three years, we say eligible for one more appointment. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we must be careful because pension involves a lot of money. It is the reason why people are fighting in the National Social Security Fund (NSSF). It is not just in Kenya, it is all over the world. Therefore, let us not create monsters in the administrative structure. They must be people who are accountable. The The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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