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    "id": 863118,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kikuyu, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah",
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        "legal_name": "Anthony Kimani Ichung'Wah",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I rise to support the amendment by Hon. Junet. I have to state categorically that we must desist from the idea that the DCI and EACC are the hallmarks of morality and ethical behaviour in this country. Other independent offices like that of the Auditor-General must also be given their due powers and mandate in line with the Constitution. The Report is a product of the Auditor-General’s work. Most of the audit questions and queries raised by the Auditor-General are then reviewed by PAC and PIC, as Hon. Opiyo Wandayi’s Committee has done. It is not lost on us that the Office of the DCI and the EACC are being used for other ulterior motives in this day and age. I would be very careful before asking the DCI and EACC to pick up a matter that has not been conclusively concluded by the Office of the Auditor-General for investigations, as if we are drawing culpability on certain people even before establishing the real facts. It is only fair, as Hon. Junet says that the Auditor-General is first given an opportunity to investigate just like it happens in the auditing profession. When there are questions raised to management through management letters following the work of an auditor, the management is given the first opportunity to respond. In the subsequent year’s audit, the auditor also has a right to give the management an opportunity to show what corrective measures they have taken. What Hon. Junet is proposing is not just right, but should happen in normal audit processes. Therefore, I strongly support the amendment that the Auditor-General is given an opportunity, three months after the adoption of this Report – which is basically in subsequent years – to go back and check what has been done since then. If nothing has been done, you can further recommend the involvement of the DCI and the EACC. Otherwise, we should forestall. Even MPs, especially those whose National Government Constituencies Development Fund (NG-CDF) accounts are before Public Accounts Committee, should be very careful before rushing to the DCI and the EACC in an age where some of those institutions are being used for ulterior political motives. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposes only. Acertified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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