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    "speaker_name": "Sen. M. Kajwang’",
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    "content": "will need to have a conversation with the KRA and some of these bodies to find out why sitting Senators are suffering, yet the perpetrators of those crimes are well known. Secondly, the CPAIC is sessional. There are only two sessional Committees in this House; that is, the CPAIC and the Committee on Delegated Legislation. Allow me because when we go on recess then that will mark the end of the term of the CPAIC as a sessional committee and we will be required to reconstitute it. However, I want to assure the House that sessional committees usually do an end of session report and that report is usually taken to the Liaison Committee which then considers it. If it deems it fit to bring it back to the House, they will do so. Probably, we need to amend our Standing Orders to allow the end of session report to come directly to the House rather than going to the Liaison Committee for consideration. I also want to agree with the Senate Minority Leader, Sen. Orengo, on the engagement with the SBC. When we were in Uasin Gishu County, I presented to the SBC some of the initiatives that I have reported again to the House today. We had agreed that we will schedule another meeting to have a deeper discussion on the implications of the proposals that I am making. So, that proposal is very welcome. I hope we can do it quickly before the life of this Committee dies. Finally, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to thank this House for entrusting me with that responsibility to lead this particular Committee. There have been serious challenges. Some of them have been expressed by Sen. Farhiya. When we come from a retreat and we have spent 12 hours in a meeting, and we come out congratulating ourselves, the question is always for which year was that audit report and that deflates us. We spend an entire weekend in Mombasa dealing with 2013/2014 audited accounts. We are not yet out of the woods. However, I believe that there is real commitment and we are seeing better cooperation from governors and the Auditor-General. I hope that in the next and subsequent sessions, we will be able to do much. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I thank the House. I hope that when we come back in the next session when we reconstitute the Committee, I still offer myself to continue doing this tough job. Sen. Orengo, the Senate Minority Leader, talked about the three months within which we are supposed to debate these reports. However, there is a black hole between the time the Auditor-General submits his report to the House and to the time Parliament adopts the report. That black hole is dangerous. This means that we sitting in those committees, can change the rules at will. We can be opaque and do all sorts of things. It would be important if players are coming into a game when they know the rules of the game. It will be our responsibility, as a Committee and the Senate, to bring to an end that opacity which sometimes makes reports stay for far too long. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I take note of all the comments made by the other Senators."
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