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    "content": "(Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki): Well done, Sen. Sakaja. Colleagues, if you listened to the Chairperson, he had glimpses moments of logic. However, all of a sudden, he got lost in useless narratives that are not very critical. I could be wrong but my suspicion was that, perhaps because the Committee on Justice, Legal Affairs and Human Rights was doing something on devolution, he may not have internalized the coherence part. So, thank you, Sen. Sakaja. Based on the intervention by Sen. Sakaja, once the report is tabled and presented, I will give room for observations and make further directions. As I do that, I will elaborate, not as part of the main ruling or decision, what lawyers led by Sen. James Orengo call obiter dictum, I will make some comments about Standing Order No. 1 which Sen. Sakaja alluded to as part of my thinking. I strongly believe that we need a bit of parliamentary jurisprudence on the role of Standing Order No. 1 because it tries to tell this House that it is a House of rules but it is not a prisoner of its own rules. If there can be justification, we can apply that Standing Order to overrun the others for the convenience of the Senate and the work which this House does. I am making some observations there. I will also make some extensive observations tomorrow on an issue that I discussed with the Senator for Makueni. Yesterday, he made some comments off the record but the Chair could hear from where he sits. Increasingly, it has come to my attention that the issue of matters concerning counties is one of the areas which have been The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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