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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Orengo",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Lands",
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    "content": " Thank you. Mr. Speaker, Sir. I would like to second this Motion. In seconding this Motion, I would like to say that more than any other Parliament; this Tenth Parliament has a historical duty for which, so far, we have measured up to the occasion. We have rose to the occasion. The First Parliament was dealing with the transformation of Kenya from a colonial state to an independent State. If you look at the annals of this House, the debate that took place in this House in the first year after Independence, you will see that there were Bills to ensure that Kenya was changing from a colonial order to an order of a new democratic republic. I think the first Parliament acquitted itself. However, this Parliament is doing more than ever, what the First Parliament did; to move from one constitutional order to a new constitutional order. There may be criticisms about this Tenth Parliament. However, if you look at the history of each Parliament, let me say this: Each Parliament will not be judged by the persons that were in that Parliament; not even on the basis of parties that were in that Parliament. It will be judged by the results of the business that we will have transacted as a Parliament. This Parliament has a historical duty which is found within the new Constitution. I am so happy that in view of Article No.10 which talks about National Values, Members raised some issues about the first list. There are values there that we must, all the time, take into account, including issues of participation and representation. Indeed, the crucial thing that was missing at the beginning was the idea of participation and consultation. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I want to plead with the House that once Parliament has decided that there is a Committee of the House which has been appointed and agreed upon, I should be able to defend it as a Member of this House. I should be able to defend every Member of that Committee. I dare say that the names of Hon. Hussein Mohammed Abdikadir and hon. Namwamba, appearing on this list is a sign that we have come of age. I can say this with due respect, because when the two gentlemen speak normally on these constitutional issues, I have the idea of the Kenya that we should strive to be. It is not the Kenya that we are fighting away from. I plead that in this whole arrangement, it will be very difficult to satisfy everybody. We are 42 communities in Kenya. When we talk about participation, not every single individual will participate in one way or another, but indirectly, we will all participate. The large constitutional questions that face us and the basis upon which we are going to be judged in the terms of the current Constitution, this list takes care of it. If you look at Article 10, because that is the constitutional test that we should put to this list, it passes that constitutional test. This is a Committee that will represent the House on the issue of the constitutional making. The last point that I want to make is that if you look at the arrangement of the consultation, Parliament is the main organ of review at the moment. It is not the Executive, or the Attorney-General. Parliament is the main organ. If we start on a note when we can speak with one voice, we will deliver all the consequential legislation. I can rise up one day and say that I am truly a Kenyan. I will look at the face of hon. Mureithi and not ask where he comes from, but look at him as a brother who can defend me in any situation. The problem is that sometimes when issues arise and we go into our little cocoons, then we begin to have doubts about each other. We begin to see weaknesses in each other. But our best moment is when a person, whom you do not agree with on many issues, you can sit with him as a brother in this House and say: “This is the moment to be Kenyan and make Kenya great”. With those few remarks, I beg to support."
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