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    "id": 87316,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/87316/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Munya",
    "speaker_title": "The Assistant Minister for East African Community",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 279,
        "legal_name": "Joseph Konzolo Munyao",
        "slug": "joseph-munyao"
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    "content": " Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, when cattle raiders raid an area, there is always a trail. The security forces follow the trail. When driving a large number of cows there is a trail that is left. This is what the security officers, who are very well trained, follow. Usually the chopper is used to assist them identify where the cows have reached and send information to the forces on the ground to follow them. This is what happened and the cows were followed and brought back to Isiolo airstrip. The herdsmen who had lost their cows and reported--- If you go to the Occurrence Books (OB) at Isiolo Police Station, Lare Police Station and Tigania Police stations, you will find reports of the herdsmen who had lost their cows and the numbers. These herdsmen were called and were able to identity their cows. They were then given their cows back. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, what surprises me is when the Report says that this was collective punishment. This is not true. It cannot be collective. It was not a punishment because the Government was trying to restitute to the rightful owners cows that had been raided by warriors from that region. How this amounts to collective punishment I do not understand. If raiders raid your area and the Government recovers those cows, the Government restitutes those cows to the rightful owners. Where does collective punishment come in?"
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