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    "id": 878153,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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    "content": "In the last BPS, we never made any comment on the division of revenue. We assumed that when it comes and it is tabled here, we would have an opportunity of amending it but we got stuck. I am glad that we have told the National Treasury that they have no room to negotiate or move downwards on the base allocation to counties without amending division of revenue. Senators, you might not be aware of this. The Kshs9 billion that was in the controversial financial amendment is what has been imported quietly into the amendment and reduction of Kshs9 billion in the proposed BPS. It is a back door way of amending the Division of Revenue Act. However, Sen. Halake is right to say that all corruption deals including the National Youth Service (NYS) started from the BPS. This is because where the policy on NYS is not supported by figures or a correct policy in BPS, we have passed it without interrogating and that includes the medical equipment which has also been in the BPS. Therefore, are we agents and aiders of corruption? This is because we are providing a formula for people to steal on dams, roads and anything. It comes from these documents. In the future, we should perhaps get more details. We should ask for financial estimates and possibly as Sen. (Eng.) Mahamud has said, speak to the cabinet secretaries in advance for us not to look as if we are doing something very academic. We must do something different from what the National Assembly is doing for we will look like we are just a talk shop from what I can see. I am happy with the Council of Governors (CoG), led by Wycliffe Ambetsa Oparanya. They have said no to reduction. Governor Nanok let us down and we must tell him because he is the one who allowed some of the things that have led to the reductions. The CoG has said no. I know there was an impasse at the Intergovernmental Budget and Economic Council (IBEC) and I am happy about that impasse. Senators, we might suffer because we are going to say no. I hope that the Senate Majority side that I am facing will not turn into what they have been doing when it comes to matters that are very serious. We are not going to have either walkouts or “yes” for no reason because without a crisis, we will not make progress. If we agree with the proposed Division of Revenue, we might as well sign our seats out because we are not going to protect counties."
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