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    "id": 886713,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/886713/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Eng.) Hargura",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 827,
        "legal_name": "Godana Hargura",
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    "content": "Clause12 (3) gives room for continuity. It states that:- “Where- (a) a project is to be carried out for a period of more than one financial year; and (b) the financial obligations relating to the project exist for the subsequent year, the County Executive Committee (CEC) Member shall seek the approval of the county assembly for the appropriation of monies in the subsequent financial year during which the project is to be undertaken for the completion of that project”. Madam Temporary Speaker, I thought what needs to be done is that each year, the money has to be budgeted for. So, I do not see how the (CEC) Member will seek the approval of the county assembly for the appropriation. What they need to do is to capture the project so that it is completed. So, when a project is started, it must be completed. If it takes two years, it must be captured so that an ongoing project is given priority before a new project is started. If we do not do that, with the experience of what is happening in Marsabit County where this kind of procedure is used, normally, communities easily forget what they have started. They will start a new project every year without completing the previous one. Therefore, the best thing is for the executive to always have that. For example, if they start a project from their Kshs10 million, automatically Kshs5 million should be spent to complete the project started the previous year. Therefore, there must be that continuity so that we do not have projects which are not utilised, all over the place. Madam Temporary Speaker, I did not get the reasoning behind Clause 12(7) which states that:- “All funds allocated to a ward shall be cumulative and shall be carried forward from one financial year to the next, including funds returned into the account or funds which are not utilised for whatever reasons”. The current financial system is such that once the money has been allocated from the national Treasury to the county accounts in the Central Bank of Kenya (CBK), it does not go back. What happens is that, if the year lapses, whatever money that has not been spent is supposed to be brought forward and be budgeted for in the next financial. So, there is no risk of the monies going back the way it used to happen in the old system, where we have a centralized Government where at the closure of a financial year, whatever you have not spent goes back and you do not have a way of continuing with that project. However, in this case, we need to be very clear. We need to put it in such a way that what was for that ward should still be for that board, but there is no fear of monies going back."
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