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    "id": 887020,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/887020/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Bondo, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Gideon Ochanda,",
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        "legal_name": "Gideon Ochanda Ogolla",
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    "content": "If we look at it critically as I have mentioned, we will realise that the World Bank alone sends out Kshs20 billion across counties in the name credit, loans and grants. That is over and above what we are talking about. It goes to agriculture, water and other functions that are devolved. So, when we talk about the Kshs310 billion, let us insist that it is nominal. The term we use needs to indicate that it is nominal so that these figures are looked at properly. On headquarters, from last year to this year, they are spending Kshs1 billion. When we went to mediation last year, nobody had thought that there is Kshs1 billion that was going into the building of the headquarters of counties that did not have them. It means that those counties do not use their own money to do the headquarters. Money comes from Nairobi to help the five do their headquarters. Some of these things need to be looked into properly."
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