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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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    "content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Speaker. I rise to support this Bill, like I did the last time that Sen. (Dr.) Zani proposed. I commend her for the resilience of the fact that after the Select Committee and coming up with such a good Bill, it never saw the light of the day. For Sen. (Dr.) Zani I think it is just biblical; that the good things shall come to pass. Madam Temporary Speaker, there is no gainsaying on the question of benefit sharing, I agree with Sen. Olekina. I was actually surprised that when it came to Turkana, Gov. Nanok and a team of Members of Parliament (MPs) trooped to State House to negotiate with the President. What happens when something is found in another county? We want to avoid a situation where a county government negotiates with a President, because the next President may have a change of heart. We do not want that sort of system; it is a bad system. Madam Temporary Speaker, when we were discussing the amendments to the Energy Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 50 of 2017) and the Petroleum Bill (National Assembly Bills No. 48 of 2017) we could not agree because there were directives that these Bills and many others should go unamended. Sen. (Prof.) Ongeri is right; that we cannot just apportion percentages. This cannot be whimsical and a matter for this Government and then the next one thinks of something else. For example, it must be known that if something is found in Tana River, the benefit to the people of Tana River is 60 per cent. Therefore, I support this Bill in terms of having what would be a framework for all purposes. What Sen. (Prof.) Sen. Ongeri has said is right. We must include whatever it is, whether it is sunlight, water resources and minerals, so that those resources, whatever they are, can be useful. We say in Makueni County that the buildings in Nairobi have been built by the sand from Makueni. The whole Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) in Makueni was built by our sand, but did that leave the people of Makueni with anything? The Chinese exploited every possible avenue. I am happy with Kajiado County because they said, “you must pay “X” amount of money,” and they agreed. They blocked the roads until the Chinese complied. However, if we had legislation, the Chinese would not have exploited us like they did, by building concrete slippers in a place called Kathekani, Makueni County. They went, carried away the factory and everything else, and left bare land. This is because we have no framework."
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