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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Garissa Township, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Aden Duale",
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        "legal_name": "Aden Bare Duale",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker. We need to make it clear that if you have to discuss a Member of this House, you need to bring a substantive Motion. You have made that clear before. The advice given by our brother, Hon Makali Mulu, sets everything right for us, as Honourable Members. The issue of conflict of interest is provided for in our Standing Orders. There must be evidence. There is an incidence that I heard over the radio that happened yesterday in the Departmental Committee on Education and Research. I am sure you will chair the Liaison Committee and the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Education and Research will brief you and the Committee. When we bring an issue touching on conflict of interest, we must also bring evidence, so that the substantive Speaker can give direction on the way forward. Chairpersons, vice-chairpersons and individual Members know that the element of conflict of interest is well grounded in our Standing Orders and the Constitution. For example, if before coming here you worked for a company as a senior manager and that company happens to appear before a relevant committee, you must excuse yourself because at one stage, you were part of that company. It is good that one declares one’s interests. One does that by not being part of the discussions or when it comes to voting, they do not participate. All these things are documented in the Standing Orders. When we get evidence, we will bring it forth with regard to the areas where there is conflict of interest. At one time, Hon. Deputy Speaker, you represented your organisation outside this House. Your direction is good."
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