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    "id": 892600,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/892600/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kiminini, FORD-K",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr.) Chris Wamalwa",
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        "legal_name": "Chrisantus Wamalwa Wakhungu",
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    "content": " Absolutely, Hon. Speaker. If it is a petition you are listening to, you are supposed to give an objective judgment or decision based on the observations. In this case, if a petition is being presented in which you have pecuniary interests that will affect your decision so that you are unfair, skewed or biased, then you need to step aside. It happens even in courts. When a magistrate or a judge is listening to a matter and they are related to the person petitioning and that is likely to affect their decision so that you are biased, they disqualify themselves. So, in that context, Parliament is a bit different. We are in Committees because of our interest or expertise. Today, when we were talking about the mediation committee, you indicated that Hon. Ounda, because of his expertise in land economics, he will add value. In that case, he will add value without bias but in a situation where he is likely to be biased, the issue of pecuniary interest comes in and goes on. There is nothing wrong if Hon. Sossion in that case, if I got the Chair right, it is about the delocalisation policy. Somebody had come to give a presentation and in that case it was KNUT. Hon. Sossion is the Secretary-General of KNUT and is a Member of Parliament. Personally, I do not see anything wrong because he is still the Secretary-General of KNUT, for him to give some clarification on an issue because he understands it better."
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