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    "id": 892632,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/892632/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Ruaraka, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. T. J. Kajwang’",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Tom Joseph Kajwang'",
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    "content": " Hon. Speaker, I will be very brief on this because just as you had guided us this is not business. We have taken a lot of time to go round what business is and we are overrating this thing called “personal interest” or “conflict of interest”. If we have to go the way we are going we will not speak in this Assembly. The Constitution says that this is a debating Chamber and there is freedom of speech. This is why we have put able people as Chairs of Committees so that they can administer them. This is not an issue which we should be speaking in plenary. This is about the organisation of a Chairman and his charisma. If I am, for example, speaking or advancing something for which I have an interest, pecuniary or otherwise, he should be able to shut me down and tell me that I am. For example, I am a member of that law firm, I have done a fee note and I am likely to get some pecuniary gain. Therefore, he should shut me. We are loading you with so many things. We should be asking you issues of jurisprudence that will turn the moments of this country and not issues which chairpersons are entitled to do as part of management of their committees."
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