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    "id": 893143,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Garissa Township, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Aden Duale",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Aden Bare Duale",
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    "content": "The essence of this is to ensure that we do not have duplication of duties and services at our counties, constituencies and wards. Together, all of us must realise Clause 4(1)(c)(i) of this Bill which is very important. Indeed, this is in line with the provisions of Article 6 of the Constitution which provides that the governments at both the national and county levels are interdependent. In the last Parliament when devolution started there were some governors, and one of them is my very good friend. He was Hon. Isaac Ruto and we used to talk. He used to tell me, we are government my friend. At one time they even said, we cannot be summoned by the Senate and if they are summoned even the President should be summoned by the National Assembly. That is the time when devolution and power was sweet. But now, they have realised there is a world of difference between the President who is the Commander-in-Chief of the Kenya Defence Forces and a governor who has been elected by less than one hundred thousand or two hundred thousand people. So, the provisions of Article 6 of the Constitution talk about the two levels of government being interdependent, and shall conduct their mutual relationship on the basis of consultation and co-operation. This is one of the Bills I was waiting for. There is also another Bill from the Government which I will be publishing very soon. It will guide on how we will conduct the census in August this year. It is called the Statistics Act (Amendment) Bill. I will introduce it in the House after recess. With those many remarks, I want to thank the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning and the Senate. Slowly, they are learning their border lines. The Senate cannot be squatters, because the Constitution is very clear. That is why I agree for the first time with Hon. Matiang’i’s advisory opinion from the Attorney-General. There are certain Cabinet Secretaries (CSs) who should not appear before the Senate. That is why I also want to send a message to Hon. James Orengo, that there is no way he can impeach the Deputy President. He cannot even impeach a CS. The only place where the impeachment process of the President, Deputy President or a CS can begin is here. So, James Orengo, you are living in a world of dreams. Come to the National Assembly in the next elections and become a Member."
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