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    "id": 893924,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. M. Kajwang",
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        "legal_name": "Moses Otieno Kajwang'",
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    "content": "had a session with the Governor in an open sitting where members of the public were involved and contributed. We talked about the stalled projects and the state of affairs in Samburu County. As we were flying out of Samburu, officers of the EACC also flew in. I want to confirm that there was no connection between the CPAIC and the EACC. From our discussions, it was obvious that something was not right. Samburu is no exception. This problem replicates across 45 counties. In the last the Auditor-General’s reports, only two counties got unqualified opinions. The rest were between disclaimers, adverse and qualified opinions. There is nothing that stops the EACC from taking up these issues once they have been identified by the Auditor-General because the Senate is not a Chamber for sanitization. I heard one of the governors, who run one of the cities, saying that he is ready to come to the Senate and explain himself. I want to caution governors that if they do not cooperate with the Auditor-General, let them not expect a soft landing in the Senate. Let them not expect that the Senate shall be a laundromat for their illegalities and irregularities. As long as I am the Chairman, we shall insist that the default truth is that which is reported by the Auditor-General. Anything else that the governors come to do is a privilege for them to be heard. However, if they did not cooperate with the Auditor- General, then they have no business bringing loads of paper before the Senate, because the Senate does not have capacity to process all that. As I finalise, Madam Temporary Speaker, the question that begs is what public participation. Public participation is one of the things that have been mentioned many times in our Constitution. If you do a word-count, public participation has been mentioned many times than integrity. In the budget-making process, there are several documents that must be subjected to public participation. They include; the County Integrated Development Plan (CIDP), the Annual Development Plan (ADP), the County Budget and Review Outlook Paper (CBROP), the County Fiscal Strategy Paper (CFSP), the County Appropriations Bill and the County Finance Bill. However, you will still hear people talking of exclusion and MCAs saying that they want a County Development Fund because the budgets and county ADPs do not take the wards into consideration. Where are MCAs when those documents are taken through public participation?"
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