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    "id": 895976,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kiharu, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Ndindi Nyoro",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 13370,
        "legal_name": "Samson Ndindi Nyoro",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I never wanted to be seen as usurping the powers of my chairman, who is my very good friend. The point I was driving home is that as a member of PAC I want to reminisce that we actually went through a lot of agony, even tracing where we could get these fellows to come before the committee. We went around Nairobi looking for them, we could not trace them. We went to their website calling them. We actually took a lot of time to get the directors of IDEMIA to come before PAC. Therefore, holistically speaking, we need to relook at the Companies Act itself without singularly looking at IDEMIA, because whereas on one side the amendments as brought by Hon. Kaluma may cure a lot of things that are happening around procurement in this country, especially where we have foreign companies engaging in procurement, we need also to look at the other side of the coin. I am bringing this point out because I am privy to a lot of information being a member of PAC. Therefore, probably my submissions may form part of the discussions around this topic going forward. I want to put it very clearly that if we strictly follow Section 973 of the Companies Act, the ramifications are beyond IDEMIA. On the other side, we need these companies that are engaging in business in this country to have at least a physical location within our borders, because the issues we have in terms of audit queries may require some of these entities or their representatives to appear before this House or any other agency. And it becomes very hard for us to trace them. I also do not know how they pay taxes because if they are not registered as entities within our country, how do they get paid especially when you are using local accounts. As you know, you cannot open a local bank account if you are not a legal entity. Therefore, we need to look at all those loose ends so that we know whether to support or oppose. I can see Hon. Kaluma is laughing because I am clearly oozing wisdom that can enrich the amendments going forward. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker."
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