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    "id": 898097,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/898097/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Ruaraka, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. T.J. Kajwang’",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Tom Joseph Kajwang'",
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    "content": " Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, let us have reason in this House. I agree with the Leader of the Majority Party and other Members who seem to say that we need to watch this gaming properly because of the social menace. However, there is something that the Chair is saying which you are not listening to. When you look at the proposed legislation, he is talking about licences. He is saying that licences are not generic. There could be a lady in Ruaraka who wants to open a small Sportpesa shop. Unless we say that this is an illegal business and then remove it from the law books… If we say it is a lawful business that somebody can participate in, we cannot come here and guillotine the whole business. We should see some of the graduations in which somebody can pay Kshs20 million and others Kshs5,000. Otherwise, we are just saying that this is an illegal business and we should remove it from the books in the first place. I call for sobriety in this amendment. By passing the proposed Kshs20 million, we will say that gaming and lotteries are illegal, and we will never participate in them."
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