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    "id": 90049,
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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Orengo",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Lands",
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        "legal_name": "Aggrey James Orengo",
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    "content": " On a point of order, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I started listening to this debate elsewhere and I was agonizing over this issue. It is important that as a Parliament that will exist in two republics; the First Republic and the second Republic, that, that transition is managed in such a way that shows the road map that the era in which anything goes is over and done with. When I was reading the provisions as read out by hon. Ruto, as a lawyer, I am bound to read those provisions for what they mean rather than what I want them to mean. The fact of the matter is that we cannot run away from those very clear words that the effective date is the effective date. It depends on how we start. What Kenya becomes in the next 10,20,30,40, 50 years depends on how we start. So if we start on the wrong note, then I can tell you, Mr. Speaker, Sir, we will be committing the same mistakes that many generations made. So I am speaking having been guided - I was whispering to the Vice President - I do not think this is the matter in which there is opposition. I think when the law says what it says, we must be seen to obeying it. With those few remarks, I beg to support the amendment."
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