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    "id": 902772,
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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Murkomen",
    "speaker_title": "The Senate Majority leader",
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        "legal_name": "Onesimus Kipchumba Murkomen",
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    "content": "the time to put your words into action by demonstrating in your leadership---” I am glad they are in the Mediation Committee to decide that the money that will go to counties will be Kshs335 billion. Anything that will change will be on the higher side. This is because we want our counties to get these resources. Madam Temporary Speaker, there has been all this argument about corruption in counties. Therefore, they should not be given money. Where is stealing not happening and corruption allegations being mentioned? It is all over in national and county governments. I argue and which argument may not be sound in law, that when, for example, Kshs5 billion goes to Elgeyo Marakwet County, if they steal Kshs100 million, it will be noticed. This is because it too much for a person around that area to steal that amount of money. If you give one person at the national level to preside over 47 counties and you give them Kshs60 billion, they will steal Kshs2 billion that will never be recognized until after two to three years. We better disburse more money to counties and then we can now deal with the issue of corruption. We know the CEC comes from this corner. How did he make this money? We know the MCA comes from here. What happened? We will then have better understanding. If you keep the money in some hidden house in Nairobi, it may become difficult for all citizens to pursue that corruption that is at the centre. Madam Temporary Speaker, if there is an argument that there is corruption, it is better managed than fought at the county level. Therefore, let the resources go to those counties. I look forward to that mediation. On the question of medical equipment, we, as the Senate, have no problem. In fact, most of us believe that with this medical equipment, we are taking services closer to our people. For example, screening of cancer so that it is determined at an early stage at the local level and proper treatment given to citizens. The question we are asking is of accountability. How much money is this project? How will it be paid? Where will the money come from? When will it end? What is the cost of each item? It is a question of accountability which the President has preached so well. Why can we not support His Excellency the President by ensuring that we do not perpetuate a process that is shrouded with mischief that later, we will do postmortem on matters of corruption? We are not opposed to the project and we are not saying it should be scaled down. We are saying that it can be enhanced if the money that has been provided for can be used properly to source for proper equipment, be taken to proper places and ensure that these projects operate."
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