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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, this country has so many laws. This morning, one of our colleagues brought a law on prompt payment of goods. We told them that the law is clear on this one. If you were to go to court and somebody owes you money and they have not paid, the law is clear. It is 14 per cent from date of filing. The law is also clear on contract law; if you sign into a contract to pay 20 per cent interest or commercial rate. The law is clear. You do not need to legislate. However, even we, legislators, are legislating on what is very clear. We are now legislating, for example, in this Bill, what would be good manners. There is no ambiguity as to what should happen. We are now trying to put everybody in a straight jacket. What would you do when this happens? Recently in your ruling on Paragraph 102, you quoted that a good Speaker – I remember mentioning that word and you chuckled – would find something about public finance, health and security that concerns counties. Does that make Speaker Muturi and Speaker Lusaka bad Speakers? I mean, from deductive logic. Does that make them bad Speakers because a good speaker would find something? The Budget Policy Statement is normally brought here for us to give our views. We give our views as Parliament under Section 25. It is then goes out there to the Cabinet Secretary (CS) and they put it in the out tray. They say excess paper and forget all about it. Then with a keen eye, they look at what the National Assembly has done. What kind of people or leaders are we? Forget about good speakers. The Speaker of the National Assembly and the Senate is a representation of us. We say we are a representation of the people who voted for us. We voted for the two Speakers. Does that make us bad? We voted bad Speakers because if they are good we are good. If they are bad, we are also bad. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I went to the Republic of Australia and our Speaker, who sits where you sit, should be called the president to distinguish the two. That particular time, the Senate then elected a person who is affiliated to what would be in our case, the Minority. That is the person who is entrusted with the Upper House, to give wisdom. In our case, we have Speakers who have come from the same political affiliation. When a Bill is being signed you see both of them. I raised this issue about Sen. Murkomen who raised an objection on the Floor, but he appeared to have participated. I do not know whether the fact that he was there means he acquiesce. It is a question that at some point, we will have to address. Did he acquiesce by virtue of standing there? The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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