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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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    "content": "counties or on a money Bill. Legislation is so difficult, and I congratulate Sen. Wamatangi. To get a Bill to have the hand of the President is really a lot of work. It pains to do all that work on a Bill and then it ends up in the dustbin because of our controversy about what concerns counties. For instance, one of the Bills about the youth that Sen. Sakaja is famous for never came here to the Senate. It concerns counties because the youth are also in counties. There are issue of youth employment and the 30 per cent we are talking about to ensure that they are catered for. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, do you need to remove your hat and teach us, as you teach good students, about what this Constitution says about us? Article 94 talks about Parliament. Article 96 is our special jurisdiction, what we call in Latin, sui generis . It is a special jurisdiction for us. The special jurisdiction for the National Assembly is in Article 95. Then there is our special jurisdiction as to what concerns counties in Article 110. It is so simple; a matter affecting functions and powers of county governments, matters relating to election of county assembly and county executive. I argued with Sen. Murkomen and Sen. Sang about this when we amended the IEBC law on boundaries of wards and county assemblies but they did not see the point. Now maybe they do, but who said that Saul cannot become Paul? Article 110(c) talks about matters affecting the finances of county governments. If you were to pick matters affecting finances of county governments, you would have everything under the sun, including debts. Even the national debt affects finances of counties. Similarly, the Kenya Revenue Authority (KRA) and shortage of meeting targets concerns counties. We have to find a way of discussing these issues; but as we do so, since this country has so much law, we still need a good Speaker in the National Assembly and a good Speaker in the Senate. Even with this law, we still need a good Speaker. A good Speaker is like a good Judge. A good judge is like Lord Denning, a man who went behind the law to find the spirit behind the letter of the law. What was the spirit of the forefathers of the Constitution? That is what a good Speaker is. I, therefore, call upon Speaker Muturi and Speaker Lusaka to find themselves into history as good Speakers, because they are letting this country down. I must tell them on record. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, when the President and the former Prime Minister wanted a Grand Coalition Government, they went to Sagana, locked themselves up and came up with a Cabinet. Do we need to send Speaker Lusaka and Speaker Muturi to some place, take away their cell phones and ask them to sort out their issues? It is their issues; and we are legislating about them. We are legislating on how they can be good Speakers first before they become better Speakers. Could you please write a treatise for us on ―How to become a good Speaker as told by the Supreme Court?‖ That way, we will not have to tell them, ―sit at midday or at one;‖ or ―sit along the corridors, in Speaker Muturi‘s or Speaker Lusaka‘s office.‖ This Bill will then not be necessary; but it is necessary because, for some reason, we need to write down everything. When I was at the British Parliament, I bought a book, and Prof. Siyanya was very interested in it. It is titled ― The Written Constitution of Britain .‖ What is in that The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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