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    "id": 903228,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Dr.) Zani",
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        "legal_name": "Agnes Zani",
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    "content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Members of this House would progress with a Bill after getting advisory opinions from the legislative staff of the Senate and those of the National Assembly. Those in the Senate would tell the Member that the Bill was not a money Bill, and those of the National Assembly would tell the Member that the Bill was a money Bill. The whole experience would be very frustrating. When the Bill went to the National Assembly, the Members would never get any feedback as to whether it was a money Bill or not. They would only hear from the corridors that the Bill was stuck somewhere. The issue was probably not administrative, because that would have been sorted out as this Bill hopes to do. It is also not clear if the issue was political, because the Speakers of the National Assembly and the Senate came from the same political divide. Was it a question of sibling rivalry? I do not know. It is true that we could be having sibling rivalry, but it is not as bad as the media portrays it. It could be just an issue of pure logistics. Congratulations, Sen. Sakaja and Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr. I hope that this Bill will not be termed ―a money Bill‖ when it gets to the National Assembly, for that will be malice. I have gone through the Bill and I do not see the provisions that are usually there in any money Bill and I hope that it will be dispensed with. I wish that the Members of the National Assembly understood the importance of the Bills that stalled there during the 11th Parliament. This is because they addressed important issues affecting people in the counties such as resources and management. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we have to understand and accept that we are a bicameral Parliament. Rwanda does not have a problem with this arrangement. They told us that they originate a Bill in one House and it goes to the other House. If we have a problem with a Bill because we feel that it is a money Bill, why can we not find a way of going round it? Why can we not amend the Articles in the Constitution so as to allow for co-sponsorship of a Bill? We can have a Bill being co-sponsored by Members from the National Assembly and the Senate, now that a money Bill has to originate from the National Assembly. Why The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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