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    "id": 925199,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/925199/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Igembe Central, JP",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Kubai Iringo",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Cyprian Kubai Iringo",
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    "content": "areas where we have to look at the interest of the people who occupy the land. We need to look at the interests of the citizens of this country, who need to be accommodated in our country’s land, so that they can live happily in their motherland. If one has been given a piece of land and has developed it… We heard Mheshimiwa Njomo say something. I would say that it is very immoral for the KFS, or the Government to say that they want to evict these people. They were not evicting them from forests rather it was from the houses which they have put up. The people have been living there and have even buried their kin there. These issues cut across the country and they often happen when somebody somewhere, in Government circles, sleeps on the job. They are supposed to do things firsthand. If, indeed, the land was allocated, all the necessary documentation should have been done from the word go and everybody ought to have got a title deed. We also expect degazettement to have been done and that officers at KFS are in a position to identify the boundaries. So, whoever was there at the time part of the forest was being hived off to the residents of Kamiti should have gone back to the drawing board. People need to enjoy their rights without any harassment. As I said, this matter cuts across the country. There are many other lands with a similar problem. For example, we have a chunk of land in Meru County called Nyambene Conservancy part of which was hived off by the former county council. They needed to enlarge the game park. We have been arguing that we have the Meru National Park which is already so huge and diverse that even if you brought all the animals in Kenya there, you would never fill it. But somebody went out of his way to get another big chunk of land where people had already settled. The place is our main grazing area and yet they wanted to make it part of the national park. They should degazette that part of the forest so that people are allowed to graze their cows and farm the land because it is just next to the Ewaso Nyiro River - it is a very fertile land. Let the Ministry of Lands and Physical Planning go back to the books and act upon the recommendation of the Departmental Committee which did this good job. It should also address similar complaints arising from other parts of the country. We do not need to hear of such complaints in the future. That can only be done if we harmonise land documentation in this country. I support."
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