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    "content": "That is why I directed that you be given a copy of this Statement, which purports to come from the Cabinet Secretary for the Ministry of Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries. First of all, it contains a lot of inadequacies, inaccuracies and lots of broad statements. More importantly, that second part seems to conclude that most of the offices have been transferred to county governments. I do not know whether you have seen that part. So, if you wanted a maritime office in Samia Sub-County and the matter has been transferred to the county government, perhaps, you may need to go and visit the County Executive Committee Member (CECM). They are not called ministers. They are called CECMs in the counties. You may have to see the CECM for Busia County dealing with fish or fisheries so that, maybe, you could get more specific responses. Again, Hon. Oundo, the danger one runs into when they seek a Statement is that the Chairperson is not the one who gives the Statement, as you can see. If you had asked a specific Question to the Cabinet Secretary, you would be asking the Cabinet Secretary supplementary questions to which he would be responding. I have gone through it and I agree with you. Even as Hon. Angwenyi was busy consulting loudly, I was going through it. That is why I thought it was necessary that you be given a copy of the Statement. Armed with this, you can, actually, launch proper and specific questions to the Cabinet Secretary so that you are able to deal with him or her when he or she appears. I am sure the Chairman is unlikely to answer. Looking at him, he may not quite understand. Even though they are talking about juvenile fish, I doubt that Hon. Adan may have dealt with juvenile fish. So, maybe the Cabinet Secretary would come with his officers. You can then engage about these 25 inches and 55 to 85 centimetres and all these things. I am sure the Chairman is unlikely to be the one to respond properly. But I think this could be a good beginning because with this, you can interrogate the Cabinet Secretary and his team from a position of information of what it is they think unless the Chairman wants to go again and find answers. You see, unfortunately, this Statement is not even signed. It just purports to be by Hon. Mwangi Kiunjuri. It is not signed. If he read it, there are several things that he needed to correct. Going through it myself, I can see there are several things that needed to be corrected. I think a Question would be an appropriate avenue to address many of the concerns because I can see your specific questions have not been adequately and specifically responded to in this Statement. The Chairman may not be able to answer because he does not control the guys that deal with juveniles and adult fish. Hon. Adan, do you want to respond?"
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