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"speaker_name": "Garissa Township, JP",
"speaker_title": "Hon Aden Duale",
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"content": "answer Questions from the following Members: Hon. Paul Abuor, Hon. Ernest Kivai, Hon. Jayne Kihara, Hon. Godfrey Omuse, Hon. Kuria Kimani, Hon. Abdul Dawood, Hon. Peter Kaluma and Hon. Wafula Wamunyinyi. The Cabinet Secretary for Agriculture, Livestock, Fisheries and Irrigation will appear before the Departmental Committee on Agriculture and Livestock on Thursday, 8th August to answer Questions from the following Members: Hon. Zaddock Ogutu and Hon. Ali Wario. This is where we have a problem. There are two Ali Warios. This one is the Chairperson of the Departmental Committee on Labour and Social Welfare, Hon. Benard Shinali, Hon. Janet Nangabo and Hon. Josphat Gichunge. The Cabinet Secretary for Energy will appear before the Departmental Committee on Energy on Thursday, 8th August to answer Questions from the following Members: Hon. Kubai Iringo, Hon. Michael Muchira, Hon Francis Chachu Ganya, Hon. Nzambia, Hon. Alois Lentoimaga and Hon Edith Nyenze. The Cabinet Secretary for Education, Science and Technology will appear before the Departmental Committee on Education and Research on Thursday, 8th August to answer Questions from the following Members: Hon. (Dr.) Wilberforce Oundo, Hon. Koros Kipsengeret, Hon. Richard Chonga, Hon. Ferdinand Wanyonyi, Hon. (Capt.) Ruweida Obo, Hon. Oku Kaunya and Hon. Ezekiel Ombaki. The Cabinet Secretary for Sports, Culture and Heritage will appear before the Departmental Committee on Sports, Culture and Tourism on Thursday, 8th August to answer Question No.337 from Hon. (Prof.) Jacqueline Oduol. Hon. Speaker, through you, I want to inform the Clerk and the committee chairpersons that, this Statement that I have read is not in vain. Ministers must appear before committees. There is a culture where when Members ask Questions, the Cabinet Secretaries talk to the chairpersons and they are given permission not to appear before committees. That culture must stop. This habit of Cabinet Secretaries sending text messages to chairpersons indicating that they will not appear before committees and the chairpersons consenting is not fair. The due process is that once a Statement from the HBC is read the Cabinet Secretary must appear before the committee. The only time we can excuse a Cabinet Secretary is if he is out of the country or if there is a Cabinet meeting - I am sure the Head of Public Service would communicate that - or if he is indisposed. You hear Members are in committee room while the Chair talked to Cabinet Secretaries over the weekend through text messages or WhatsApp . That is not how we should run business. I want you to ask the Office of the Clerk that by tomorrow, we must know on our notice boards where each committee is going to sit on Tuesday whether the Cabinet Secretary will appear. These Questions are usually sent to the Cabinet Secretaries two weeks before I read them here. So, they cannot claim that we have ambushed them. That is why we have a backlog of Questions. We have a huge number of Questions because Chairs are excusing Cabinet Secretaries. Hon. Speaker, in future, I think you need to make a ruling on this matter."
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