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    "id": 927795,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Kisumu East, Independent",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Shakeel Shabbir",
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        "legal_name": "Ahmed Shakeel Shabbir Ahmed",
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    "content": "As much as we say that electronic means should be there, we say “garbage in garbage out.” If there is electronic data, it must have a measure of control measurements and certain qualities. That is so that anomalies are checked if there is some electronic data which is keyed in and is not at par with the standards that have been set for that. There are so many women and men in Nyalenda, which is one of my wards. If you go and put very little or very much, the data should say “hold on. This is not acceptable because it does not fall within the parameters.” Then, that means somebody else must look at it. I was very honoured to go to Malawi as a Member of the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning. They spent some money and took us to Malawi. They showed us this electronic data system. That is where the questions turned up. Malawi is having a few problems. It has less than 20 million people. One thing we found out is that it costs Malawi USD1.64 per person for the census. Then we asked our Kenyan brothers how much they have put in. One of my brothers, Mheshimiwa Makali Mulu, brought this up. They have put up USD6.49 per person in Kenya. Multiply that by 52 million people. Where is the difference? The situation is the same. Electronic data is the same. It is the same people. Whether our geographical distances vary or not and you are choosing enumerators from the area, the information should not be so different that you change it from USD1.64 to USD6.49 per person. When they came to us for their budget, in the Departmental Committee on Finance and National Planning, we looked at it and they trimmed it down to around USD4. But, still, they have already spent the money. They have already bought these computers which we do not know where they are coming from. In Malawi, they have used computers from Zimbabwe and other people in the United Nations. We are buying computers here. They have not shown us how they are going to collect the electronic data. I think this is going to be a major problem. I do not say that they should not be collecting it electronically. I am saying I do not want to be a doomsayer. I think this is where we are going to have false data. We are going to have a situation that even if you do it every five years, we are not going to be able to accept this information that they have put together. It will not be because they have done a wrong thing but because the systems they have used are not properly proved and not properly set out within the requirements. So, what we would like to do is that they can follow through paper data if it was there. Somebody is going to tell me “the server is sitting in France.” Is the server going to be sitting in France when we are questioning the data and how it is recovered? I do not think so. Much as we agree that it should be done, I am saying that we talked to the Director-General and his people. They asked us not to wash our dirty linen in Malawi. We did not, but I put it to them that you promised us that enumerators would be local people yet you have given this to chiefs and other people. We are going to have problems. We are striking in Kisumu on Friday, tomorrow. We are going to strike and throw these people out. That is what we are going to do. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker."
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