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    "id": 934856,
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    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Dr.) Musuruve",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 13188,
        "legal_name": "Getrude Musuruve Inimah",
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    "content": "that in a situation of legal proceedings, sign language should be in such a way that it depicts the exact information that is there. If a Judge acts on information that is not true, even the verdict of the Judge is compromised. There is the saying “as sober as a Judge,’ and Judges want true information. When we talk of sign language in legal proceedings, it should be KSL, so that all the information that is being articulated gets to the Judge correctly. This will ensure that the judge makes a ruling that will not be unfair to PWDs and the deaf. Even when the deaf are communicating, there is need for them to have all the information they give communicated to the Judge. In legal proceedings, people should not just sign what they know, but exactly what the deaf person is saying. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this Bill comes out clearly to state that there is need for a mechanism of ensuring that sign language interpreters are trained and given recognition. The Cabinet Secretary (CS) should also be aware of them. There is need to identify who the sign language interpreters are and have ways to recognise them nationally and internationally. According to the Bill, there is need to have a register of sign language interpreters. When they are needed, it should be possible to get them from the register of sign language interpreters. When I talk about sign language interpreters, I mean those that have been trained and accepted by a board. We met Prof. Ndurumo during public participation on sign language interpretation. He told us some pertinent issues about sign language interpretation that I do not want to change even a single sentence about. He clearly said that there is need to establish a board of nine members to deal with sign language issues. Regarding the composition of the board, it is true that members will add value when it comes to interpretation. It is provided that one of the persons will come from the Kenya Institute of Curriculum Development (KICD). We will also have persons from the Kenya National Association for the Deaf (KNAD), the Commission for University Education (CUE), Teachers Service Commission (TSC), the Kenya National Examination Council (KNEC), and two deaf professionals preferably with Masters Degree. That was a suggestion by Prof. Ndurumo and I believe it will also enrich the Bill because KSL should develop. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, as I speak, KSL has fossilized; it is not developing despite the fact that we have technology. Sometimes we see people saying in the media that the signs have changed because of technology. Sign language has not been enriched. Therefore, there is need for us to see how we can enrich this area. This Bill also seeks to ensure that KSL is also taught in Technical and Vocational Education Training (TVET) institutions and Teachers’ Training Colleges (TTCs). It is a plus for KSL to be taught in TTCs because there is a shortage of teachers in this area. The Bill proposes that if not three, there should at least be a unit on sign language taught in all TTCs. By the time teachers finish colleges, they leave with an understanding of KSL, so that they have an idea when they go to the classrooms. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, sometimes teachers are posted to even schools for the deaf but they have do not have the slightest idea of how to communicate using KSL. They find themselves in a situation where they have to learn from the pupils. When they The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate."
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