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"content": "Hon. Speaker, protect me from the Leader of the Minority Party. I do not know if he is rejecting to what I am saying. I will look at the Speaker and ignore him. I was saying that, procedurally, the National Treasury ought not to have effected any cuts in the Budget as it was proposed in the Appropriations Bill. That, as many Members have canvassed here, is against the law. Any changes to what was passed in the Appropriations Bill should come rightfully before this House through the Supplementary Budget that has now been tabled. You are aware that, as Hon. Kaluma has said, it is in the hands of the departmental committees. As I indicated when the Supplementary Estimates were tabled, we have the whole of this week and next week to consider them. I want to give assurance to Hon. Kaluma and the House that the Budget and Appropriations Committee does not, in any way, seek to override what the departmental committees propose or recommend. We do what we do in consultation as is required by our Standing Orders and Chapter 12 of our Constitution - in consultation with the national Treasury. Therefore, we will consider all the proposals that will come from the departmental committees. Also, in line with what I have said, in consultation with the National Treasury, I want to confirm that we also had a meeting this morning as the Budget and Appropriations Committee. We had a brief from the Parliamentary Budget Office. We have since asked, through the Clerk’s Office, to call the National Treasury on Tuesday, next week to have a meeting prior to the closing meeting. The problem that has been there is that we never get an opportunity. This year we never had an opportunity. But in the 2018/2019 Financial Year, we had an opportunity, through the Deputy Speaker and the Liaison Committee, to get back and brief the chairs of committees on what we had done. It is also a question of timelines that we have. If we have an opportunity before tabling of the report or before debate to also be able, through the Liaison Committee, to brief chairs of the committees because we have no other forum to be able to get back to the Departmental Committees, we should be able to sit with the committee chairs and brief them. I was also going to liaise with you and the Clerk’s Office. In the meeting where we have invited the CS and his team, we did propose this morning that we also invite chairs of committees so that they are part and parcel of the engagement that we will have with the National Treasury. So, even as they sit as Departmental Committees…"
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