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    "id": 939579,
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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Orengo",
    "speaker_title": "The Senate Minority Leader",
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        "legal_name": "Aggrey James Orengo",
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    "content": "If there was no stigma and we had done a lot more public awareness, the population of people who can be referred to as intersex are a lot more than what came out in the census. Probably after this legislation, it may be a way of encouraging them to come out. In the region, we live in a continent and society that is really conservative even on simple things and realities that people should accept. In parts of Malawi, Tanzania and even here in Kenya, there are people who believe in witchcraft. We still have got quite a bit of work to do before we can come to full realization. I am going backwards in terms of the dates of some of these significant conferences. There was one in Malta in December, 2013 where a series of declarations were made. It is important that some of these meetings were not only meant to create awareness, but the fact that they were international organizations which were attended, they were able to translate some of these resolutions into actionable decisions and policies. In some countries, they have led to some kind of legislation, but not in the manner in which Sen. Mwaura is doing. What he has done is quite courageous. I was being told that the other day there were people from part of the Lesbians, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) community that wanted to come to Parliament to hold a meeting. They were dismissed. These are people who probably voted for some of these Members of Parliament. They were not able to come here and give a presentation. Madam Temporary Speaker, in this meeting in Malta, there were concerns that there was discrimination all over, not just in Malta, but all over Europe. There is still discrimination and stigmatization of persons who are intersex. It behooves us to be pioneers, to make sure that some of these things that make sense in some of these forums are translated into policy decisions like I have said before."
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