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    "id": 941310,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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        "legal_name": "Mutula Kilonzo Jnr",
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    "content": "The majority voted for an amendment to give the National Assembly an opportunity to deal with delimitation of wards and constituencies, which we objected to and I filed an amendment. I was talking about the majority, and at that time, Sen. Murkomen was not the Senate Majority Leader. However, let me finish. My colleagues Senators, what is the problem with telling the national Treasury to amend this gazette notice to bring a different ceiling as proposed by the Parliamentary Budget Office, who are our advisors, and in that ceiling, we should put caveats for them to borrow here or there? This is because the principle is – and Sen. Wambua mentioned this somewhere in a different forum – that if you are unable to pay less, how will you be able to pay more? What is the justification? We have asked for the justification of the Kshs9 trillion, and it was not given. We must look at the document that the National Treasury submitted. Sometimes, I think that there are people in this country who think that legislators are zombies; that we do not think and do not need information. The document submitted by the national Treasury looks like a PowerPoint presentation that you would submit in my daughter’s kindergarten class. There is no justification as to why this country should increase its debt ceiling by 50 per cent from Kshs6 trillion to Kshs9 trillion. There is no calculation as to why that should happen. However, I have said that Sen. Murkomen and the Mover are supposed to"
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