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    "id": 941325,
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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mutula Kilonzo Jnr.",
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    "content": "We know what we are talking about. I am not standing here out of idleness; I have read this document. From 2014, we have questioned severally how we are managing our debts in the Committee on Finance and Budget. I was talking about counties before I was interrupted. Our Gross Domestic Product (GDP) and revenue have reduced. Our revenue is at Kshs1.9 trillion against a borrowing of Kshs9 trillion. The National Treasury must find oversight in this Senate, otherwise, there is no difference between this Senate and the National Assembly. We must distinguish ourselves. I am standing here to say that, as a Senator, my soul cannot agree to this sort of framework, when for the first time since I was elected, the question of debt has now come to the Senate. We must say that this is wrong and it was done wrongly. Sen. Murkomen is aware that the former Cabinet Secretary was charged in court for violating the ceiling and for not coming to us."
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