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    "id": 941602,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mugo",
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        "legal_name": "Beth Wambui Mugo",
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    "content": "take money that was meant for development, but we cannot say that development was bad just because some people stole. We should support the request being made by the National Treasury because we cannot let our country come to a standstill. The Acting Cabinet Secretary has said that we need this to move forward or to use it to pay the expensive loans and borrow cheaper loans and that does make sense. What is the alternative? Those who are objecting should give us the alternative. It is true that people are suffering, we do not have enough jobs, but the infrastructure that is being built today is what will open up for the jobs tomorrow. I believe that our future generations will be happy with the development that is being done and they will pay the loans that we will not have finished paying because they will have the means. We cannot ask to stop where we are and go backwards because we are afraid of taking more loans. All countries, including those in Europe and even the USA take loans. USA has actually taken loans from China. What is wrong with a developing country taking loans from China? If we are to take the loan from Europe, we will be taking it second hand because Europe also takes loans from China. We do have a right to shop at the right place. Why does USA, a big country, take loans from countries such as China? If China called American loans today, they will be in a big problem. Let us not be intimidated. Let us not stop developing our country and getting it to the middle income bracket or even better because of fear of taking loans. No country can develop with taxes. There is always a hue and cry when the Government increases taxes. I do empathise and sympathise with the situation today, but I believe that what is being done today will give Kenya a better future than choosing to remain a developing country. We should aspire to be a developed country. The countries that are developed today went through the same route and that includes Germany which was completely demolished during the Second World War yet it is now the leading country in Europe. We are the leading country if not one of the leading countries in Africa. With those remarks, I support this Motion and ask my colleagues to give Kenya a chance to develop. Let us explain to our people the reason as to why we are where we are and we should support our Government."
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