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    "id": 941677,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/941677/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Orengo",
    "speaker_title": "The Senate Minority Leader",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 129,
        "legal_name": "Aggrey James Orengo",
        "slug": "james-orengo"
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    "content": "At the end of the day, some people make more money when the country is in a lot of problems. When there is a war, there are war mongers. When the economy is not doing well, the black economy and the underworld do much better. Let us do things in a regular way. However, I plead with the Government of President Uhuru Kenyatta not to make decisions without giving the leadership some public participation. Even if we are not recognised, as Senators, we should be recognised as part of the public, so that people get to understand why we have to increase the levels of debt. This is because if many people knew why we want to increase that ceiling, they would probably support that position, but if I go to the market in Siaya County and ask them if we should have more debt, they will say, ‘no’, but if there are no drugs in hospitals, the same people will say that they want drugs in the hospitals. Let me not belabour the point. I think this is one time that we can come together-- -"
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