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"content": "doomed if we do not, and we are doomed if we do. Therefore, I looked at it this way; which is the lesser evil, or which is the less doom for us? Is it not to raise the ceiling, and then we might have some economic crisis in this country or is it to raise the ceiling and give a lease of life for them to be able to reinvent and look at the systems? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the great concern for me, then, was that we could allow them to borrow more, and then we get the money misused, as usual. In fact, the concern now is for us to crosscheck that whatever money that is borrowed is going to be used in a prudent manner, and that we check on the corruption that is in this country. It is a shame that we are in this situation; that we are borrowing day in, day out, not because this country is lacking in resources. We are not borrowing because this country is so bad that we cannot have a sound economic system. However, we are crying day in, day out and we are borrowing day in, day out, just because of the corruption that we have in this country. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, if I heard the CS well, they, in fact, presented to the Committee and said that: “We are working on cleaning the systems; we are working to ensure that we use the money prudently to ensure that we have a sound economic system.” Therefore, when I considered the options, I personally decided to support and to choose the lesser evil. Both are evils, because we are in trouble; but the lesser evil is for us to allow this ceiling to go to what the Treasury thinks is going to help us, as a country. They also presented to the Committee a list of projects which have been referred to severally by hon. Members, as they were contributing. These include ongoing projects and fresh projects that will stall, if these ceilings are not raised. These projects are partner-funded, but the partners will not give more because we have already bypassed the ceiling that is allowed. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, for these reasons, I felt that we needed to consider saving this country. We should not say that because we are in trouble, let us get into further trouble by allowing the CS, hon. Ukur Yatani, and his team, to take us through their promise; that they are going to ensure that things are right within the Treasury. What has eaten into this country is nothing but corruption. If only we can deal with corruption, then all the rest of the things will follow suit. Therefore, I support that we raise this ceiling, not because of wanting to let them eat more into the economy, but giving them a chance to prove that we can do things right this time. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is also worth noting that the Institute of Certified Public Accountants of Kenya (ICPAK) was represented, and they actually said that to them, having analysed all that has been presented, they did not object to this ceiling being raised. Therefore, we are many that think that this country needs to be rescued. If this is what will cost us, or if this is what is called for, for us to be able to have a sound system, then so be it. I beg to support."
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