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"speaker_name": "Suna East, ODM",
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"content": "today. We sat last week and we will sit next week. I am sure the Treasury has also written to Parliament that they need to cut their budget. That is just a letter of intent telling you that: “Can we talk over something?” The Judiciary should not also go to the extreme of taking the matter and giving a court order and saying that they shall ignore the circular. That is not the way to go about it. The Judiciary has gone to the extreme. For example, the budget has been cut or is intended to be cut, but nothing has stopped a judge from going to his office and doing his job. I am sure there is a vehicle that carries him from his home to his office to listen to cases. As much as we support them, they should also be careful on how they handle the matter lest they are taken to be chest-thumping or are seen to be people who think they are above all institutions in the world. My final submission is that the Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury must climb down. Let him come and sit down with the Budget and Appropriations Committee of this House. Let him share the problems he is having. Let the Budget and Appropriations Committee sit down with the three arms of the Government. If they have to revise the budget, this is the place to do it. It is not at the National Treasury. Once Parliament and Judiciary have been allocated their money, it is up to them to decide what to do with it. The Cabinet Secretary for the National Treasury can slash any budget of the Executive. If he wants to remove money from the Ministry of Interior and Coordination of National Government, the Ministry of Energy, the Ministry of Defence or any State department or agency, he can do so because he is part of the Executive. But once the budget has been passed in this House, the Appropriations Bill has been passed and enacted into law and signed by the President, his mandate on how to manage budgets of other arms of the Government ends there. We must call a spade a spade even if we are under the frame of handshake. Of late we have been quiet, but on this one we cannot and we must tell it because we love our country. We want things done rightly. Hon. Speaker, I urge the Judiciary to continue with their work. Let them not also overdramatise. Let me not overreact as if there are no other arms of the Government that can discuss the matter. This issue of giving out court orders kienyeji namna hii … What happens if the Minister for Finance goes to court and says that he has no money? If he tells the Judiciary to collect taxes from the people because they are unable to get enough money that they are asking for, there would be a stalemate. Let them not overreact. Let them know that Parliament is the one that has the responsibility to do budgeting in this country and that as a House, we will support the budgetary allocation of the Judiciary to the end. With those few remarks, I urge the Chief Justice to show leadership. At his level, he should discuss these matters with the Speaker of the National Assembly and not the Senate. The Speaker of the National Assembly is the Chairman of the Parliamentary Service Commission (PSC) and he is third in command in the Constitution. Let him also discuss with His Excellency the President who is also the head of the Executive and the Head of State. I am sure an amicable solution will be found, but in Parliament we will defend the budget of the Judiciary to the end; you can take that to the bank and take a loan on it. We want institutions to remain in this country. What is going to save this country’s institutions is Parliament, the Judiciary and strong institutions like the Executive. I support."
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